Snesible comments by a blogger from outlook
Having analyzed and read about Mullaperiyar extensively over the years I feel that this is an 'open and shut' case with no room for controversy and 'inaction'.
The facts of the case are straightforward:
1. The dam was built with an outdated technology. Infact the only existing dam in the world that was built with that technology.
2. The dam is more than 100 years old.
3. The dam is situated in Kerala. The river is situated in kerala.
4. The dam is owned by Kerala. As per an agreement it is operated by Tamil Nadu.
5. The water harnessed through the dam is used exclusively for the benefit of the neighbouring state, Tamil Nadu. Electricity generated through the dam is also consumed exlusively by Tamil Nadu.
6. There has been not a single incident so far in more than 100 years wherein the dam was shut down by Kerala (or erstwhile Travancore) to deny water to the people of the five parches districts of Tamil Nadu.
7. There have been seismic termors recorded in recent times in and around the location of the dam.
8. Experts from IIT Kharaghpur and IIT Delhi have submitted their fears about the degrading strength of the old dam and its increasing vulnerability.
7. If Kerala has not acted irresponsibly so far (if anything, it has acted generously all these years), why must its fears about the safety be dismissed by Tamil Nadu off hand as some diabolical plan to deprive Tamil Nadu of water. Kerala has emphasized time and again that they belive in 'Water for Tamil Nadu,and security for Kerala'.
8. Kerala has stated that Kerala will undertake all expenses to build a new dam at a nearby location BEFORE decommissioning the existing dam. All existing commitment to continue supplying water to Tamil Nadu will continue to be honored.
9. Tamil Nadu maintains that since the dam has not collapsed in over 100 years, it is strong enough, and so Kerala has no business doubting its strenght or building another dam. Any opinion to the contrary is supicious. Any plans of Kerala to question the strengthe of the existing dam MUST be due to SOME hidden agenda of Kerala. 'What if Kerala build a new dam and do not provide TN water?'. 'What if Kerala builds a new dam, and charges us the market rates for water and electricity?' . Too many 'what ifs' from Tamil Nadu. No one of the Tamil Nadu side is waiting to ask themselves, 'Listen may be we shouldnt go by the wild What Ifs flowing in our minds. Maybe we need to ask ourselves, has Kerala turned off the dam before? Has Kerala demanded market rates for the water? How come other neighboring states are charging Tamil Nadu market rates while Kerala has been providing water all these years for free? So why dont we trust our brothers and sisters in Kerala, and take them on their commitment to continue being nice with us? Why can we Tamils not be thankful for the water and understanding of the people of kerala all these years, and agree to repsect their concern for the safety of the people of kerala? If we have suspicions about the intentions of Kerala, despite them being ready to commit to continue offering water to TN exactly as before, why dont we TN people ask Central government for a counter guarantee that we continue to get Water from Kerala exactly as is being done today?'
10. If the dam breaches the calamit with not only wash away a large chunk of kerala into the ocean, it will also destroy the entire dam as it stands today, AND THE AGREEMENT TO distribute the water harnessed through the dam to Tamil Nadu. While TN people and politicians want to stonewall any discussion on building an alternate dam, that new dam may actually be in TN's best interest. Built with modern technology, materials, world class specification, and anit seismic standards, the new dam could last for centuries if not millenia. If nothing is done and the existing dam bursts, Tamil Nadu's hopes of continuing to live off of Kerala's waters, would come to an abrupt end.
11. If the existing dam bursts and a huge humanitarian calamit ensues, the public opinion against a dam would be so strong to begin with. Next, the position hereto adopted by Tamil Nadu people and politicians would be viewed as totoally insensitive, inhuman and thankless by the entire world, and particularly the people of Kerala. Any suggestion to build a new dam over mullaperiyar after the death and destruction of Keralites, would be scoffed at by one all oll, except Tamilians.
12. It is in the best interest of TN, that the people and politicians of Tamil Nadu tone down the rhetoric and meet and match Kerala's goodwill midway. In my opinion it is extremely kind of Kerala to volunteer to take the entire bill for the new dam. Ideally, TN should step us and be willing to foot half the expenses. It may be a good idea for TN to foot the entire bill for the new dam, as a token gesture to acknowledge and thank the goodwill of Kerala to allow Tamil Nadu the exlusive use of Kerala's waters through the dam at Mullaperiyar.
Sunday, December 4, 2011
Wednesday, November 30, 2011
Third trip to Tirupati
Went there third time...fastest and quickest trip
went there in 2007 just befor joining college, 2009 just before leaving at and this time when things are in a kind of limbo
will this be time for a new beginning?
I found an excuse - coming back to office just like last time not to tonsure head...
few things stand
1. kindness of fellow passengers in Bus.
2. importance of asking people than shouldering all responsibility -wasted one hour but did not call brother of raghav
3. take advice from people - asked satya about sheeghra darshan ticket and it helped
4. use of polythene by the TTD to give prasadam..can't it be stopped
5. very rude attendants inside who actually push people
6.as pointed by Raghav's uncle and felt by me and specially papa on all occasions sore lack of sign boards in Hindi and English
7. indian love for eating..even in queue people were devouring on pop corn, biscuits and tea
8.Every pilgrim place I have gone to , I have run into middle class Gujartis, are then Japanese of India tourism minus camera
8.A news piece about place being Buddhist monastery and thus custom of shaving
9. noticed a sculpture of man and woman giving each other oral sex in sanctum
10. all gold platings are very clearly extrapolations
11. VIP tickets and acco continue a sore thing
went there in 2007 just befor joining college, 2009 just before leaving at and this time when things are in a kind of limbo
will this be time for a new beginning?
I found an excuse - coming back to office just like last time not to tonsure head...
few things stand
1. kindness of fellow passengers in Bus.
2. importance of asking people than shouldering all responsibility -wasted one hour but did not call brother of raghav
3. take advice from people - asked satya about sheeghra darshan ticket and it helped
4. use of polythene by the TTD to give prasadam..can't it be stopped
5. very rude attendants inside who actually push people
6.as pointed by Raghav's uncle and felt by me and specially papa on all occasions sore lack of sign boards in Hindi and English
7. indian love for eating..even in queue people were devouring on pop corn, biscuits and tea
8.Every pilgrim place I have gone to , I have run into middle class Gujartis, are then Japanese of India tourism minus camera
8.A news piece about place being Buddhist monastery and thus custom of shaving
9. noticed a sculpture of man and woman giving each other oral sex in sanctum
10. all gold platings are very clearly extrapolations
11. VIP tickets and acco continue a sore thing
Thursday, October 7, 2010
ek doctor ki maut : medicine noble
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/ivf-did-india-miss-a-medicine-nobel/132425-3.html?from=tn
New Delhi: Robert Edwards of Britain won the 2010 Nobel Prize in medicine for the development of in-vitro fertilization, a ground-breaking process that has helped many couples over the last two decades have children.
While Edwards was working towards his dream - creating the world’s first in vitro fertilized or test tube baby - a physician in India was working on the same subject but the odds were piled heavily against him.
Bengali doctor Subhash Mukhopadhyay was two months late in announcing the birth of Durga or Kanupriya Agarwal - India’s first test tube baby created by him on October 3, 1978.
While Edwards, professor emeritus at University of Cambridge, was lauded for his efforts, Mukhopadhyay was fighting a hostile state government that rubbished his findings. Ridiculed and ostracised, Mukhopadhyay was also not allowed to publicise his work in the international arena.
He was invited by the Kyoto University in 1979 to present his findings during a seminar in Japan but denied a passport by the Indian government. The depressed physician committed suicide in 1981.
Here are some facts about the man considered the father of India’s IVF research, who remained unsung during his lifetime but inspired many physicians after his death to bring his life and work to the public domain.
So who was Dr. Subhash Mukhopadhyay?
Born on January 16, 1931 in Bihar, Mukhopadhyay studied medicine at the prestigious National Medical College in Kolkata. He received his doctorate from Calcutta University in reproductive physiology in 1958. He obtained a second doctorate from Edinburgh in reproductive endocrinology.
He was noted for his work on ovarian stimulation - he used the protocol successfully on Durga’s mother even before any scientist in the world had resorted to the method.
He was also successful in his methodology of cryopreservation of a eight cell embryo.
However, the news of the birth of Durga, the world’s second test tube baby, was met with disdain and skepticism by his peers.
The only evidence of his work was a report he had prepared for the West Bengal government facing an enquiry. He was questioned by a government committee several times and his work was discredited as “bogus”.
What went against Dr. Mukhopadhyay then was the fact that no physiological or biochemical technique could distinguish between in vivo and in vitro fertilised babies.
He was transferred to the ophthalmology department of Calcutta Medical College in 1981 and prevented from completing his work on IVF.
Mukhopadhyay had no documented evidence and the credit for bringing his work to the public domain is largely given to Dr. T C Anand Kumar who was recognized officially as the first to deliver a test tube baby in 1986.
Kumar went through Mukhopadhyay’s notes and credited the doctor posthumously for his pioneering work.
Medical scientists opine that had Mukhopadhyay been allowed to publish his work and given adequate government funds and infrastructure to complete his research, he would have been recognized as the pioneer in in vitro fertilization process, hopefully paving the way for a Nobel prize in medicine such as his precursor Edwards.
The Indian Council of Medical Research in 2005 acknowledged Mukhopadhyay as the creator of India’s first test tube baby.
Filmmaker Tapan Sinha, who was deeply impressed by Mukhopadhyay’s work, based his award-winning film ‘Ek Doctor Ki Maut’ on him.
New Delhi: Robert Edwards of Britain won the 2010 Nobel Prize in medicine for the development of in-vitro fertilization, a ground-breaking process that has helped many couples over the last two decades have children.
While Edwards was working towards his dream - creating the world’s first in vitro fertilized or test tube baby - a physician in India was working on the same subject but the odds were piled heavily against him.
Bengali doctor Subhash Mukhopadhyay was two months late in announcing the birth of Durga or Kanupriya Agarwal - India’s first test tube baby created by him on October 3, 1978.
While Edwards, professor emeritus at University of Cambridge, was lauded for his efforts, Mukhopadhyay was fighting a hostile state government that rubbished his findings. Ridiculed and ostracised, Mukhopadhyay was also not allowed to publicise his work in the international arena.
He was invited by the Kyoto University in 1979 to present his findings during a seminar in Japan but denied a passport by the Indian government. The depressed physician committed suicide in 1981.
Here are some facts about the man considered the father of India’s IVF research, who remained unsung during his lifetime but inspired many physicians after his death to bring his life and work to the public domain.
So who was Dr. Subhash Mukhopadhyay?
Born on January 16, 1931 in Bihar, Mukhopadhyay studied medicine at the prestigious National Medical College in Kolkata. He received his doctorate from Calcutta University in reproductive physiology in 1958. He obtained a second doctorate from Edinburgh in reproductive endocrinology.
He was noted for his work on ovarian stimulation - he used the protocol successfully on Durga’s mother even before any scientist in the world had resorted to the method.
He was also successful in his methodology of cryopreservation of a eight cell embryo.
However, the news of the birth of Durga, the world’s second test tube baby, was met with disdain and skepticism by his peers.
The only evidence of his work was a report he had prepared for the West Bengal government facing an enquiry. He was questioned by a government committee several times and his work was discredited as “bogus”.
What went against Dr. Mukhopadhyay then was the fact that no physiological or biochemical technique could distinguish between in vivo and in vitro fertilised babies.
He was transferred to the ophthalmology department of Calcutta Medical College in 1981 and prevented from completing his work on IVF.
Mukhopadhyay had no documented evidence and the credit for bringing his work to the public domain is largely given to Dr. T C Anand Kumar who was recognized officially as the first to deliver a test tube baby in 1986.
Kumar went through Mukhopadhyay’s notes and credited the doctor posthumously for his pioneering work.
Medical scientists opine that had Mukhopadhyay been allowed to publish his work and given adequate government funds and infrastructure to complete his research, he would have been recognized as the pioneer in in vitro fertilization process, hopefully paving the way for a Nobel prize in medicine such as his precursor Edwards.
The Indian Council of Medical Research in 2005 acknowledged Mukhopadhyay as the creator of India’s first test tube baby.
Filmmaker Tapan Sinha, who was deeply impressed by Mukhopadhyay’s work, based his award-winning film ‘Ek Doctor Ki Maut’ on him.
Tuesday, June 8, 2010
574
574 is the number of SEZ granted approval till april 2010
574 was the number of princely states which Sardar Patel integrated with india
history comes full circle??
574 was the number of princely states which Sardar Patel integrated with india
history comes full circle??
Saturday, March 20, 2010
My IIM C GD PI 2006
Hi ,
well I could not get any help from this forum as no one from calcuttaa bothered to post his/her experience. So here is mine:
Profile: 99.52 (BLACKIE) IIT KGP dual degree electrical fresher
X 86.2 XII 84.66 (MP state Board)
Well I did not appear for first three interviews viz L,K,I. So this was my first interview.it was on 15th march at IIMC itself - panel 7.
There were 10 people in our panel.There were 4 iitians including me.
our GD topic was a real shit "Indian IIT industry can't compete only on the cost advantage."
We were given 3 minutes to think.As soon as prof said u can start now ,the guy siiting next to me jumped without any niceties(Must have attended lot of TIME session). Now he clubbed hardware with IT and got away ewith it and kept on giving useless facts without broaching the topic.Well I tried to interject at some points but was not heard,but I took a different approach from group which was all escatic about Large english speaking population and large pool of engineers.I pointedto them that most of them are not employable and IT industry often complains about their lack of skills.I also named phillipines and east asia as reasons from where India could face stiff competition in fututre.This opened a flodd gate and everybody tried to come up with name of some countries.One guy came up with Liberia and two or three people blindly repeated that thing.I don't know whether prof noticed this or not. I had a minor scuffle with this initiater who always kept on harping let me finish first friens but could not get the support of group.
(Later in interview they asked everybody about GD being aggressive but not to me and the devil I mentioned.)
Well the good part was that they asked us to give a summary of 1 minute after GD and i was the second one to be called(random)>nad here I made most of it.I summarised putting the topic ,all the views those cropped up and finally my own views but ran out of time as one of the profs was sitting with wrist watch.
Overall leaving that scuffle my performance was above average of group as I toed a different line and only one other person summarised the toic properly besides me ,all other were repeating their own points throughout in summary.
PI:
Well profs were pretty exhausted from the morning session so they made it clear inthe beginning that interview wil last only 15 minutes and the were not interested in seeing extracurricullar certificates besides our marksheets.
Mine was 6th.To all earlier people they did not ask any acads or current affairs.Just hobbies,about yuorself and why MBA.
SO here comes the big moment.
I enter.Now they had a semicircular group pf chairs for GD. after that they were sitting across a table with a chair in front of the.Now instead of approching after the semicircle I tried to make my way throught the semicircle( I realised after being halfway through it but that is my old hbit .In school also I used to climb on stage instead of using stairs as I alwaysl ocated them pretty late).
Now there were three profs L,M,R.
L: time keeper and took my file checked all the certis.
M: most "khadoos" .bearded with strange look.
R: I don't remmeber his face he did not speak anything at all.
M: Anshul ,tell us about ur self
I: blah blah ,my hometown Indore city of Devi Ahlya(They did ntot pick up the bait), from middle class Marwari community(once again they failed me)
blah blah. In my free time I sleep a lot
L&M: what?
I: sleep a lot and gossip with my friends.I was also involved with a youth organisation at IIT KGP.told the name.
M: what is that?
I: told them about various personalities we invited for guest lecture or how we got dustbins installed in our campus and my failed attempt to teach local kid basics of computer.( but I could not tell all things in the proper way).
M:(al of a sudden): Is astrology a science
I: yes
M: justify
I : well it depende on your perception.How do you define science
M: how do you?
I: blah blah
M: so do you have some sort of mathematicla formulation in astrology?
I: why you isit on employing rigid definitons everywhere.Phyis has maths as its language.Astrology has its own lanugage.It might be differnet from our vconventions but it follows a logical pattern.
M: Okay So them make all boxes and write position of stars
I: yes, grahs and chakras
M: yes.So tel me do you get same result in astrology for sam e input?
I: for that you need to pinpoit exact location which is not possible.
M: Okay so assume in bombay thousands of children are obrn at an instant
I: But still you are not exact
M: Now city is the smallest unit.It is like that.
I: (rather forcefully) No it is not like that.When my horscope was made Indore was divided into 10 regions and blah blah
M: okay assume thoeretically you have all data ,the does a person's life follow same patern as they claim
I: well even with same setup in an experiment you get different results again and agin.Moreove they never claim that these are the perfect things.They only predict broad contours of life.
M: So oit is not an exact science.
I: Well you go to a psychiatrist.he also makes predictions.Various kind of counsellers.If tey can be called science then why not astrology.
( M is visibly frust with me he aske L to take on me)
L: now you have written some unusual thing reserach in humanities after 10 yrs.Which field?
I: well I have skill set of engineer.So I don't have chances of entering in humanires at any Indian university like JNU>Only IIM can give me admission to PHd but i want to have feel of real world before go on mking theories .Wnat ot be in thick of things and blah blah
L: which field you would liek to research
I: I havenot decided the subjectyet.It could be economice,olitical sc, or history or a combination of these or interdisiciplinary.e.g. I come fro mMarwari community( I am proud of it.) so how has marwari succeeded intheir business or comparison betwenn twwo moneyl enders Jews and marwaris or FDI in defense cestor,after all most of things we buy fro mforeign companies blah blah
(L seems visibly impressed while M has a scornful look,I could not get time to notice reactions of R)
L: well since you have mentioned Marwari commnity then you write these are the papers by ( some tim tomton) on Marwari commnuity
( I brought out my pen from pocket and looked for a ppaer but in vain ,pretended to listen to him carefully.)
L: so you are form Kharagpur
I: yes sir, dual degree blah blah
L" you must have got a job
I : yeas sir, L&T
L: so why don't you join it?
I: ( i coul ont her him) sir larsen and tubro ,mumbai
L: yes I know that .but you said you want to have feel of real world .Now L&T is a godd company with very gud training programme and equal opportunities for all so why don't you go over thr?
I: ( well I myslef don't subscribe to idea of freshers doing MBA, so I had no readymade answer and lacked conviction while answering it)
Well now I would enter at middle or lowere manageemnt level.After management skill I wil enter at higher level so more ( i was about to say power) responsibilites, better perspective, blah blah. Moreover middlelevel experience won't fit in my schem of things of reserch later( This was my biggest mistake.)
L: okay .( asks M & R to ask anything and gives them my form.
M : refuses outrightly
R: refuses politely
I am about to leave.
M: so does your horoacope predict that you wil get into IIM?
I: well the chap who amde my horoscope probably did not know that something like IIM exist on earth but he did predict that I will make big in life.( I was elated to give such a witty reply)
All of them smile.M for the first time., and noe I come out.
well I could not get any help from this forum as no one from calcuttaa bothered to post his/her experience. So here is mine:
Profile: 99.52 (BLACKIE) IIT KGP dual degree electrical fresher
X 86.2 XII 84.66 (MP state Board)
Well I did not appear for first three interviews viz L,K,I. So this was my first interview.it was on 15th march at IIMC itself - panel 7.
There were 10 people in our panel.There were 4 iitians including me.
our GD topic was a real shit "Indian IIT industry can't compete only on the cost advantage."
We were given 3 minutes to think.As soon as prof said u can start now ,the guy siiting next to me jumped without any niceties(Must have attended lot of TIME session). Now he clubbed hardware with IT and got away ewith it and kept on giving useless facts without broaching the topic.Well I tried to interject at some points but was not heard,but I took a different approach from group which was all escatic about Large english speaking population and large pool of engineers.I pointedto them that most of them are not employable and IT industry often complains about their lack of skills.I also named phillipines and east asia as reasons from where India could face stiff competition in fututre.This opened a flodd gate and everybody tried to come up with name of some countries.One guy came up with Liberia and two or three people blindly repeated that thing.I don't know whether prof noticed this or not. I had a minor scuffle with this initiater who always kept on harping let me finish first friens but could not get the support of group.
(Later in interview they asked everybody about GD being aggressive but not to me and the devil I mentioned.)
Well the good part was that they asked us to give a summary of 1 minute after GD and i was the second one to be called(random)>nad here I made most of it.I summarised putting the topic ,all the views those cropped up and finally my own views but ran out of time as one of the profs was sitting with wrist watch.
Overall leaving that scuffle my performance was above average of group as I toed a different line and only one other person summarised the toic properly besides me ,all other were repeating their own points throughout in summary.
PI:
Well profs were pretty exhausted from the morning session so they made it clear inthe beginning that interview wil last only 15 minutes and the were not interested in seeing extracurricullar certificates besides our marksheets.
Mine was 6th.To all earlier people they did not ask any acads or current affairs.Just hobbies,about yuorself and why MBA.
SO here comes the big moment.
I enter.Now they had a semicircular group pf chairs for GD. after that they were sitting across a table with a chair in front of the.Now instead of approching after the semicircle I tried to make my way throught the semicircle( I realised after being halfway through it but that is my old hbit .In school also I used to climb on stage instead of using stairs as I alwaysl ocated them pretty late).
Now there were three profs L,M,R.
L: time keeper and took my file checked all the certis.
M: most "khadoos" .bearded with strange look.
R: I don't remmeber his face he did not speak anything at all.
M: Anshul ,tell us about ur self
I: blah blah ,my hometown Indore city of Devi Ahlya(They did ntot pick up the bait), from middle class Marwari community(once again they failed me)
blah blah. In my free time I sleep a lot
L&M: what?
I: sleep a lot and gossip with my friends.I was also involved with a youth organisation at IIT KGP.told the name.
M: what is that?
I: told them about various personalities we invited for guest lecture or how we got dustbins installed in our campus and my failed attempt to teach local kid basics of computer.( but I could not tell all things in the proper way).
M:(al of a sudden): Is astrology a science
I: yes
M: justify
I : well it depende on your perception.How do you define science
M: how do you?
I: blah blah
M: so do you have some sort of mathematicla formulation in astrology?
I: why you isit on employing rigid definitons everywhere.Phyis has maths as its language.Astrology has its own lanugage.It might be differnet from our vconventions but it follows a logical pattern.
M: Okay So them make all boxes and write position of stars
I: yes, grahs and chakras
M: yes.So tel me do you get same result in astrology for sam e input?
I: for that you need to pinpoit exact location which is not possible.
M: Okay so assume in bombay thousands of children are obrn at an instant
I: But still you are not exact
M: Now city is the smallest unit.It is like that.
I: (rather forcefully) No it is not like that.When my horscope was made Indore was divided into 10 regions and blah blah
M: okay assume thoeretically you have all data ,the does a person's life follow same patern as they claim
I: well even with same setup in an experiment you get different results again and agin.Moreove they never claim that these are the perfect things.They only predict broad contours of life.
M: So oit is not an exact science.
I: Well you go to a psychiatrist.he also makes predictions.Various kind of counsellers.If tey can be called science then why not astrology.
( M is visibly frust with me he aske L to take on me)
L: now you have written some unusual thing reserach in humanities after 10 yrs.Which field?
I: well I have skill set of engineer.So I don't have chances of entering in humanires at any Indian university like JNU>Only IIM can give me admission to PHd but i want to have feel of real world before go on mking theories .Wnat ot be in thick of things and blah blah
L: which field you would liek to research
I: I havenot decided the subjectyet.It could be economice,olitical sc, or history or a combination of these or interdisiciplinary.e.g. I come fro mMarwari community( I am proud of it.) so how has marwari succeeded intheir business or comparison betwenn twwo moneyl enders Jews and marwaris or FDI in defense cestor,after all most of things we buy fro mforeign companies blah blah
(L seems visibly impressed while M has a scornful look,I could not get time to notice reactions of R)
L: well since you have mentioned Marwari commnity then you write these are the papers by ( some tim tomton) on Marwari commnuity
( I brought out my pen from pocket and looked for a ppaer but in vain ,pretended to listen to him carefully.)
L: so you are form Kharagpur
I: yes sir, dual degree blah blah
L" you must have got a job
I : yeas sir, L&T
L: so why don't you join it?
I: ( i coul ont her him) sir larsen and tubro ,mumbai
L: yes I know that .but you said you want to have feel of real world .Now L&T is a godd company with very gud training programme and equal opportunities for all so why don't you go over thr?
I: ( well I myslef don't subscribe to idea of freshers doing MBA, so I had no readymade answer and lacked conviction while answering it)
Well now I would enter at middle or lowere manageemnt level.After management skill I wil enter at higher level so more ( i was about to say power) responsibilites, better perspective, blah blah. Moreover middlelevel experience won't fit in my schem of things of reserch later( This was my biggest mistake.)
L: okay .( asks M & R to ask anything and gives them my form.
M : refuses outrightly
R: refuses politely
I am about to leave.
M: so does your horoacope predict that you wil get into IIM?
I: well the chap who amde my horoscope probably did not know that something like IIM exist on earth but he did predict that I will make big in life.( I was elated to give such a witty reply)
All of them smile.M for the first time., and noe I come out.
When I had 'ego' prblem : My IIM A GD PI 2006
Well so it happened IIM A interview.
Well I will have to admit I ws impressed by all the three professers in panel.They seemed the perfect people to learn from in India as I am already at IIT and don't have much high opinion of most of the profs here.Also in C iterview profs appeared to me just that profs.But here the way they talked, responded and took care to see only right people get into THEIR institute really impressed me.
well GD topics is well known by now that sari shop thing.Our GD was very civilised partly becuase 5 of us from the IIT and knew each other but there was no pact vact thing.I contributed the majoe point of change in commission structure while the group was lost in fixing discipline issues.Moreover group tried to give some peole responsibility to boos over their colleagues with same pay which I vehemently opposed.Another proposal to put up boards annoncing price ranges was shot down by me becoz it clearly offends the senitivities of low range customers. taking customer feedback and checking thier yielding ratio was also put forward by me and won group's approval.On the whole I was satisfied with this GD compared to calcutta one, but one regret unconciously I shot down every proposal of one of the member who was nnot that assertive but accepted all of them when put forward y another member.I really feel sorry for this.Because it means I bossed over one who was weak and surrendered to assertive people.
well none of us could write summary completely because they snatched the papers.
PI::
two earlier persons had stress interview so I was pretty preapred for that but mine was very cordial.When I entered they asked me to shut the door when I proceeded to do so,one of them said don't shut it completely and laughter ,I joined meekly.
I take the seat
P1: anshul so give us your documents to us so that you stop worrying about them during interview.( I checked which one was front side and handed it to him.he playfully distributed all the components to other members.One got hold of my form,other one transcript and third one certificates.)
P1: so did you talk to other candidates about what we were asking?
Me: yes to tthe first one in this panel.
P1: what did he say?
Me:(I was about to say stress but desisted ) blah blah some derivation of comp science
P2: you did not bother about it as u r not from comp science
Me(gleefully):yes
P2: you did not ask to anybody else
Me: sir I amthe 3rd one so 2nd person has just left.
P2: no no other panels.
Me: (rather sheepishly) Sir I thought I should bother about my panel only.
P1: gud.
P3( old guy he was froom lectrical engg I guess):
So why do you want to do MBA after M tech and not working in the industry?
Me: blah blah high level entry better perspective
P3: you don't sound convince are u convinced urself
Me: ( well I am not actually) yes I am this is what I think it may not sound convincing but it si truth.( i was about to say I don't want to give bokish answer but then once again desisted)
P2: (khadoos) so u r an instrumentation engineer.
Me: no sir elctrical and instrumentation ( i was not confident of instru fundas but was confident about elctrical,well my worst fears came true)
P2: so let us design an ECG sensor to measure a pulse of x duration y magnitude at z distance from chest.
we had long discussion along magnetic sensors.I could not satisfy him with my concept but gave him enough indication that i know the prerequisites and understand all possible scenorias.
so he decidedto give me a second chance
P2: let us design anothe sensor you ewant to know whether interview of your friend has ended here or not from outside without any accoustic device.
Me : RFID (tried to give him a bait)
P2 : ( refused t otake) no the moment he finishes.
Me: okay put some transducer on his chair as soo n as he gets up yuo get a wireless signal.( my mistake I could use pressure sensor but let's see)
P2 : what frequency
Me: any it should not interfere with things operating in the room
P2: you decide that
Me: ojkay radio waves
P2 : what frequency
Me : that needs to be work out
P2: ork out
Me; okay they have wavelength of 5-12 metres so ytou know c and can get the frequency
P2: thats a wide range ,tell me exact
Me: ( speechless) i don't know
P2: have you heard about WAN blutooth
Me: I have but don't know exactly hoeww they work.( gadhe once I ccame out of room i remebered frequency hopping thing to avoid interfernece and increase bandwidth but damage was done.)
P2; you are from electrical na so it also involves communication you should know this things..
Me: ( wahi purana kissa) No sir In KGP it is only electrical .here both electrical and electronics are separate .At other places they are same.
P2: okay okay
P3: forwards a sheet of parer to me
Me: i have one alreeady sir
P3: no I have something for you
Now I look at the paer ,This guy is devil within 5 minuteds of knowing iam from elctrical he has made a complex LCR circuit and asks me to write KVL and KCL for this.At first I don't get him but then peacefully writesthem
P3: now how do you solve that
Me: using differential equations
P3: solve it
Me: ( slightly puzzled as ihad completely forgotton particular and complementary integral then strikes to me laplace bhai) Well it is already differential equation and we can have an easy approach by laplace transform if we know initial conditions.
P3: do it
Me: ( iski pyas kab bujhegi) : starts taking transgform one is integral
P3: now you are using a formula derive it
Me: (goes to do that)
P1: what is laplce transform
Me: it is a kind of mapping
P2: what kind of
Me: well it is a mapping from t domain to s domain
P3: how do u evaluate it
I wrote the formula but follishly put a condition of continuous function which was demolishe d by P3 and I had to eat humble pie.
P3: now derive integration vala formula
I proceeded and had idea that I ahve to use two variables but somehow could not make at the moment while coming to KGP back i figured complete derivation but it was too late.Actually i did not try to think while P# was giving me sufficent hints.Advice to all engineers they do give you ssufficient hints you should be able to pick them up
Me: sitr i don't remeber derivation at the moment
All ofthem in chorus: but you are elctrical engg you should know
Me: well it is a mathematical too land we use this tool and I know how to use tool.
P2: but you don't know how to make it
Me: not at present
P1: so you have written lot of quizzing thing in your form do you stil ldo all this tihngs
Me: I try to do as time permits and opportunities exist
P1: so you should know everything about everytihng being a quizzer
Me: ( kya main robot hoon) Well I try to know but afterall I am a human
P2; Do you follow cricket
Me: ( truthfully, I have not seen a single match after India's defeat by Zimbabawe in 1999 world cup)) I don't
P1;( thinks i am lying) : tell me difference between doosra and googly
Me:( what the hell is this why don't world believe in truth speaking people): well i don't know exactly but murlidharan bowls doosra and all others google I guess.
P2: what murlidharan is doosra???(laughs)
Me: ( you rasckal you just want to laught at people) but pe pitches in clarifies what i said.
P1: tell me anytihng else you follow
Me: Sir sports or any thing( give me a chance to prove myself )
P1: anything
ME: well Indian culture, history, economics ,political science( no it wil open a pandora's box) ,politics sir.
P1: tell me difference between Indian and USA govrnments
ME: explained parliamentary and presidential form.How you can win lection in USA even without hving majority votes I India it is not like that.P3 pitches in and gives me sufficint hints that in india laso it is possible.I take his hints and end up saying firat past post system etc.Theni dwell upon how US president can appoint anybody minsiter while we get old scums to head important ministry.
P2;Who is S&T minister
ME: kapil sibbal
P2: what is his profession
Me: he is a criminal criminal lawyer
everybody laughs i am happy that they share my viewpoint
P2 : then according to you he should not be S&T minister
ME: (protesting) no sir I just said person should possess basic skill set and sibbal has that.moreover i believe that govt is truly run by bureaucrates not minister .Explained why ithink so .told about "yes Minister" .but they did not picjk up bait.( they r really intelligent i will hve to confess).
P1" sp bureaucrates are responsible to whom
ME: to their political masters IN THEORY and explained their security of tenure and whole concept of accounatability or lack of it.
P1: so you don't like this tihng.
ME: no I am perfectly comfortable with bureaucrates running govt.
P!:(sarcasticxally) so I n USA corporate controls them
Me: I don't know about USA sir.( well obvioulsy they don't moreover thr it is specialist while we have a generalist system .I am real fool to not tell all these things there.)
P1: so you are from MP tell me sometihng about it
I wondere what to tell what not then explained lack of development and its possible reasons.they were visibly impressed.I told about laid back nature of our people.He asked the reason.I put forward my own theory of original populace being tribal and marwaris, gujaratis and marathi people being outsider and not emotinoal attachment, resources concentrted in one reginon ,no powerful political leadre at centre after 1947.
P1: before independence
Me : well even before independence no one .Talked about british policyy towards central provinces
P1: after independ
ME: well PT dwarkaprasad mishra father of Brajes mishra( they are both real chankyas but it seems these people have not heard about them)
At this point P2 goes to P1 and whispers sometihng to P1 about my resume. ican guess wht it is as I had written me bien hindi literature buff but no question came as sadly today;s elite doesnot read Hindi.Then i ahd written my weakness as sleeping too much and speaking fast or in accomlishments i being a RSS swayamsevak or involvement with youth organisation at campus or the incident which affected you beingrelated to hindu-muslim question. ireall y exopected a discussion along these lines but it seems they had sensed that here they won't be able to get over me.
P1so you have NNC B cretificate not C why?
ME: explained
P2: about placement at KGP and lehman package ( first guy had job with lehman)
I expalined
P1: so you seem to be more conversed with politics why did you choose engineering do u tihnk it was a mistake.
ME: ( well it was) : no sir I nejoy engineering It is just that being a responsible citizen i try to keep my eyes open to surroundings..
it is almost end
P1: you don't have all the certificates you have mentioned
ME: no sir they r thre starts counting by name
P1: well did german embassay had quiz in hindi
ME : they had in both hindi and english I being in Hindi medium went for hindi one.
P3: (reads my continuously dropping CG and asks reason .I tell him project etc thing but he doesn't agree then I say extracurricullar activities.HE says at IIM A we have so many of the then how will you mangae.I said I will learnto manage tihngs.He siad but u have ont in five yrs. I said i.e. why I am joining mangement course.They all laughed and asked me to take a toffee).
Sothis was it. I would like to have comments ( imprtial) as to whether I stand a chance.One thing MY CG is 8.1 and last time lowest CG of KGP guy admitted was 8.5.But i did not take any coaching for CAT and I mentioned this tihng in form.
Well I will have to admit I ws impressed by all the three professers in panel.They seemed the perfect people to learn from in India as I am already at IIT and don't have much high opinion of most of the profs here.Also in C iterview profs appeared to me just that profs.But here the way they talked, responded and took care to see only right people get into THEIR institute really impressed me.
well GD topics is well known by now that sari shop thing.Our GD was very civilised partly becuase 5 of us from the IIT and knew each other but there was no pact vact thing.I contributed the majoe point of change in commission structure while the group was lost in fixing discipline issues.Moreover group tried to give some peole responsibility to boos over their colleagues with same pay which I vehemently opposed.Another proposal to put up boards annoncing price ranges was shot down by me becoz it clearly offends the senitivities of low range customers. taking customer feedback and checking thier yielding ratio was also put forward by me and won group's approval.On the whole I was satisfied with this GD compared to calcutta one, but one regret unconciously I shot down every proposal of one of the member who was nnot that assertive but accepted all of them when put forward y another member.I really feel sorry for this.Because it means I bossed over one who was weak and surrendered to assertive people.
well none of us could write summary completely because they snatched the papers.
PI::
two earlier persons had stress interview so I was pretty preapred for that but mine was very cordial.When I entered they asked me to shut the door when I proceeded to do so,one of them said don't shut it completely and laughter ,I joined meekly.
I take the seat
P1: anshul so give us your documents to us so that you stop worrying about them during interview.( I checked which one was front side and handed it to him.he playfully distributed all the components to other members.One got hold of my form,other one transcript and third one certificates.)
P1: so did you talk to other candidates about what we were asking?
Me: yes to tthe first one in this panel.
P1: what did he say?
Me:(I was about to say stress but desisted ) blah blah some derivation of comp science
P2: you did not bother about it as u r not from comp science
Me(gleefully):yes
P2: you did not ask to anybody else
Me: sir I amthe 3rd one so 2nd person has just left.
P2: no no other panels.
Me: (rather sheepishly) Sir I thought I should bother about my panel only.
P1: gud.
P3( old guy he was froom lectrical engg I guess):
So why do you want to do MBA after M tech and not working in the industry?
Me: blah blah high level entry better perspective
P3: you don't sound convince are u convinced urself
Me: ( well I am not actually) yes I am this is what I think it may not sound convincing but it si truth.( i was about to say I don't want to give bokish answer but then once again desisted)
P2: (khadoos) so u r an instrumentation engineer.
Me: no sir elctrical and instrumentation ( i was not confident of instru fundas but was confident about elctrical,well my worst fears came true)
P2: so let us design an ECG sensor to measure a pulse of x duration y magnitude at z distance from chest.
we had long discussion along magnetic sensors.I could not satisfy him with my concept but gave him enough indication that i know the prerequisites and understand all possible scenorias.
so he decidedto give me a second chance
P2: let us design anothe sensor you ewant to know whether interview of your friend has ended here or not from outside without any accoustic device.
Me : RFID (tried to give him a bait)
P2 : ( refused t otake) no the moment he finishes.
Me: okay put some transducer on his chair as soo n as he gets up yuo get a wireless signal.( my mistake I could use pressure sensor but let's see)
P2 : what frequency
Me: any it should not interfere with things operating in the room
P2: you decide that
Me: ojkay radio waves
P2 : what frequency
Me : that needs to be work out
P2: ork out
Me; okay they have wavelength of 5-12 metres so ytou know c and can get the frequency
P2: thats a wide range ,tell me exact
Me: ( speechless) i don't know
P2: have you heard about WAN blutooth
Me: I have but don't know exactly hoeww they work.( gadhe once I ccame out of room i remebered frequency hopping thing to avoid interfernece and increase bandwidth but damage was done.)
P2; you are from electrical na so it also involves communication you should know this things..
Me: ( wahi purana kissa) No sir In KGP it is only electrical .here both electrical and electronics are separate .At other places they are same.
P2: okay okay
P3: forwards a sheet of parer to me
Me: i have one alreeady sir
P3: no I have something for you
Now I look at the paer ,This guy is devil within 5 minuteds of knowing iam from elctrical he has made a complex LCR circuit and asks me to write KVL and KCL for this.At first I don't get him but then peacefully writesthem
P3: now how do you solve that
Me: using differential equations
P3: solve it
Me: ( slightly puzzled as ihad completely forgotton particular and complementary integral then strikes to me laplace bhai) Well it is already differential equation and we can have an easy approach by laplace transform if we know initial conditions.
P3: do it
Me: ( iski pyas kab bujhegi) : starts taking transgform one is integral
P3: now you are using a formula derive it
Me: (goes to do that)
P1: what is laplce transform
Me: it is a kind of mapping
P2: what kind of
Me: well it is a mapping from t domain to s domain
P3: how do u evaluate it
I wrote the formula but follishly put a condition of continuous function which was demolishe d by P3 and I had to eat humble pie.
P3: now derive integration vala formula
I proceeded and had idea that I ahve to use two variables but somehow could not make at the moment while coming to KGP back i figured complete derivation but it was too late.Actually i did not try to think while P# was giving me sufficent hints.Advice to all engineers they do give you ssufficient hints you should be able to pick them up
Me: sitr i don't remeber derivation at the moment
All ofthem in chorus: but you are elctrical engg you should know
Me: well it is a mathematical too land we use this tool and I know how to use tool.
P2: but you don't know how to make it
Me: not at present
P1: so you have written lot of quizzing thing in your form do you stil ldo all this tihngs
Me: I try to do as time permits and opportunities exist
P1: so you should know everything about everytihng being a quizzer
Me: ( kya main robot hoon) Well I try to know but afterall I am a human
P2; Do you follow cricket
Me: ( truthfully, I have not seen a single match after India's defeat by Zimbabawe in 1999 world cup)) I don't
P1;( thinks i am lying) : tell me difference between doosra and googly
Me:( what the hell is this why don't world believe in truth speaking people): well i don't know exactly but murlidharan bowls doosra and all others google I guess.
P2: what murlidharan is doosra???(laughs)
Me: ( you rasckal you just want to laught at people) but pe pitches in clarifies what i said.
P1: tell me anytihng else you follow
Me: Sir sports or any thing( give me a chance to prove myself )
P1: anything
ME: well Indian culture, history, economics ,political science( no it wil open a pandora's box) ,politics sir.
P1: tell me difference between Indian and USA govrnments
ME: explained parliamentary and presidential form.How you can win lection in USA even without hving majority votes I India it is not like that.P3 pitches in and gives me sufficint hints that in india laso it is possible.I take his hints and end up saying firat past post system etc.Theni dwell upon how US president can appoint anybody minsiter while we get old scums to head important ministry.
P2;Who is S&T minister
ME: kapil sibbal
P2: what is his profession
Me: he is a criminal criminal lawyer
everybody laughs i am happy that they share my viewpoint
P2 : then according to you he should not be S&T minister
ME: (protesting) no sir I just said person should possess basic skill set and sibbal has that.moreover i believe that govt is truly run by bureaucrates not minister .Explained why ithink so .told about "yes Minister" .but they did not picjk up bait.( they r really intelligent i will hve to confess).
P1" sp bureaucrates are responsible to whom
ME: to their political masters IN THEORY and explained their security of tenure and whole concept of accounatability or lack of it.
P1: so you don't like this tihng.
ME: no I am perfectly comfortable with bureaucrates running govt.
P!:(sarcasticxally) so I n USA corporate controls them
Me: I don't know about USA sir.( well obvioulsy they don't moreover thr it is specialist while we have a generalist system .I am real fool to not tell all these things there.)
P1: so you are from MP tell me sometihng about it
I wondere what to tell what not then explained lack of development and its possible reasons.they were visibly impressed.I told about laid back nature of our people.He asked the reason.I put forward my own theory of original populace being tribal and marwaris, gujaratis and marathi people being outsider and not emotinoal attachment, resources concentrted in one reginon ,no powerful political leadre at centre after 1947.
P1: before independence
Me : well even before independence no one .Talked about british policyy towards central provinces
P1: after independ
ME: well PT dwarkaprasad mishra father of Brajes mishra( they are both real chankyas but it seems these people have not heard about them)
At this point P2 goes to P1 and whispers sometihng to P1 about my resume. ican guess wht it is as I had written me bien hindi literature buff but no question came as sadly today;s elite doesnot read Hindi.Then i ahd written my weakness as sleeping too much and speaking fast or in accomlishments i being a RSS swayamsevak or involvement with youth organisation at campus or the incident which affected you beingrelated to hindu-muslim question. ireall y exopected a discussion along these lines but it seems they had sensed that here they won't be able to get over me.
P1so you have NNC B cretificate not C why?
ME: explained
P2: about placement at KGP and lehman package ( first guy had job with lehman)
I expalined
P1: so you seem to be more conversed with politics why did you choose engineering do u tihnk it was a mistake.
ME: ( well it was) : no sir I nejoy engineering It is just that being a responsible citizen i try to keep my eyes open to surroundings..
it is almost end
P1: you don't have all the certificates you have mentioned
ME: no sir they r thre starts counting by name
P1: well did german embassay had quiz in hindi
ME : they had in both hindi and english I being in Hindi medium went for hindi one.
P3: (reads my continuously dropping CG and asks reason .I tell him project etc thing but he doesn't agree then I say extracurricullar activities.HE says at IIM A we have so many of the then how will you mangae.I said I will learnto manage tihngs.He siad but u have ont in five yrs. I said i.e. why I am joining mangement course.They all laughed and asked me to take a toffee).
Sothis was it. I would like to have comments ( imprtial) as to whether I stand a chance.One thing MY CG is 8.1 and last time lowest CG of KGP guy admitted was 8.5.But i did not take any coaching for CAT and I mentioned this tihng in form.
My IIM Lucknow GD PI experience 2007
Posting after results but nevertheless might be useful for next yr's batch.
Profile :
X- MP board 86.2 ( with 100 in maths & 99 in science)
XII - MP Board 84.66
B TEch in electrical & M tech in Instrumentation & minor in ECE from IIT KGP - 7.83/10 ( 2006)
Working with L&T since June 2006 as Mangment Trainee. Executive assistant to GM
15 April - Hotel Monarch - Panel 3 - Morning session
Reached Just in time after Auto whcih I took did not know where the Hotel Monarch was.( I was staying with a friend in Indiranagar).
There were people for four panels.Seemed like Mela.
GD topic: In business situation Rearview mirror is clearer than frontview.
mirror
5 minutes to write your thoughts before GD. Did a good job as this was a repeat topic ( thanks pagalguy). Mentioned some real incident from my worklife.
10 minutes for discussion. One very loud fellow jumped the gun & he kept on interferring with everyone like but we should not forget. After a time it was repetion & people starte talking aobut mangment books & theories.
Came twice or thrice tried to support guys who could speak less. Becoz of this bully some other people also got agitated & whole GD was destroyed but here my work expereince came to my rescue & i made only orginal points & otherwise kept mum.Tried to stick to what I had written in sheet already.
Interview : 9th guy to be interviewed so long wait. APnel 1 was very fast & they had finsihed when 7th candidate was being interviewed in ours. while panle 2 was slowest .Ours was okay.
When entered was asked to latch the door .
two people : P1 I guess Mr Panigrahi who is MTEch in agri from IIT KGP.
other fellow I did not get time to see his face as he was engrossed with my certis.
P1: U r from indore why it is famous?
I told aobut Indore being Namkin capital & potential as iinvestment hub .Why not developed & then
P1;who are NRI & PIOs?
A sequel to first question as when I told him aobut destination of Indore's namkeen exports.
P1: who is Vindod Gupta? About VGSOM? Why is KGP famous?
I said railway staiton , IIT , Air bases nearby , Tata bearing factory but he kept on asking anytihng else .Seems was trying to stress me out.
P1: difference between B Tech & BE?
once agian tried to stress me.
Then they started looking for some mangment course which I had taken.Zeroed on Human behaviour In organsiation.How it is different form organisation behaviour?
First I said they are same ,then said no & tried to justify.
P1: ( sequel to earlier question) what is tactic? what is strategy? are they same ? & endless stream of quaetions but I stood my ground after giving one opinion.
P1: u r with Medical SBU.why it is called SBU? how it si different from OD?
Gave him good funda aobut L&T organisation structure but gave wrong answer as to why we switched to SBU model.
P2: first time looks out of my certificates .So waht is nature of your work?
I promptly put forward my work exp certificate detailing my responsibilites.
( it was helpful though they did not ask for one)
Then said you are anyway doing what we wil lteach you or what you will do after MBA?
I gave usual gyan & pitched in with example of one M&A study I had done at workpalce.
I nhindsight Ithink Lgive mroe importance to your profile & percentile astheir form si also very short which does not tell anything aobut you.
PS: I made it to L finally.
Profile :
X- MP board 86.2 ( with 100 in maths & 99 in science)
XII - MP Board 84.66
B TEch in electrical & M tech in Instrumentation & minor in ECE from IIT KGP - 7.83/10 ( 2006)
Working with L&T since June 2006 as Mangment Trainee. Executive assistant to GM
15 April - Hotel Monarch - Panel 3 - Morning session
Reached Just in time after Auto whcih I took did not know where the Hotel Monarch was.( I was staying with a friend in Indiranagar).
There were people for four panels.Seemed like Mela.
GD topic: In business situation Rearview mirror is clearer than frontview.
mirror
5 minutes to write your thoughts before GD. Did a good job as this was a repeat topic ( thanks pagalguy). Mentioned some real incident from my worklife.
10 minutes for discussion. One very loud fellow jumped the gun & he kept on interferring with everyone like but we should not forget. After a time it was repetion & people starte talking aobut mangment books & theories.
Came twice or thrice tried to support guys who could speak less. Becoz of this bully some other people also got agitated & whole GD was destroyed but here my work expereince came to my rescue & i made only orginal points & otherwise kept mum.Tried to stick to what I had written in sheet already.
Interview : 9th guy to be interviewed so long wait. APnel 1 was very fast & they had finsihed when 7th candidate was being interviewed in ours. while panle 2 was slowest .Ours was okay.
When entered was asked to latch the door .
two people : P1 I guess Mr Panigrahi who is MTEch in agri from IIT KGP.
other fellow I did not get time to see his face as he was engrossed with my certis.
P1: U r from indore why it is famous?
I told aobut Indore being Namkin capital & potential as iinvestment hub .Why not developed & then
P1;who are NRI & PIOs?
A sequel to first question as when I told him aobut destination of Indore's namkeen exports.
P1: who is Vindod Gupta? About VGSOM? Why is KGP famous?
I said railway staiton , IIT , Air bases nearby , Tata bearing factory but he kept on asking anytihng else .Seems was trying to stress me out.
P1: difference between B Tech & BE?
once agian tried to stress me.
Then they started looking for some mangment course which I had taken.Zeroed on Human behaviour In organsiation.How it is different form organisation behaviour?
First I said they are same ,then said no & tried to justify.
P1: ( sequel to earlier question) what is tactic? what is strategy? are they same ? & endless stream of quaetions but I stood my ground after giving one opinion.
P1: u r with Medical SBU.why it is called SBU? how it si different from OD?
Gave him good funda aobut L&T organisation structure but gave wrong answer as to why we switched to SBU model.
P2: first time looks out of my certificates .So waht is nature of your work?
I promptly put forward my work exp certificate detailing my responsibilites.
( it was helpful though they did not ask for one)
Then said you are anyway doing what we wil lteach you or what you will do after MBA?
I gave usual gyan & pitched in with example of one M&A study I had done at workpalce.
I nhindsight Ithink Lgive mroe importance to your profile & percentile astheir form si also very short which does not tell anything aobut you.
PS: I made it to L finally.
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