Saturday, March 20, 2010

When I had 'ego' prblem : My IIM A GD PI 2006

Well so it happened IIM A interview.
Well I will have to admit I ws impressed by all the three professers in panel.They seemed the perfect people to learn from in India as I am already at IIT and don't have much high opinion of most of the profs here.Also in C iterview profs appeared to me just that profs.But here the way they talked, responded and took care to see only right people get into THEIR institute really impressed me.

well GD topics is well known by now that sari shop thing.Our GD was very civilised partly becuase 5 of us from the IIT and knew each other but there was no pact vact thing.I contributed the majoe point of change in commission structure while the group was lost in fixing discipline issues.Moreover group tried to give some peole responsibility to boos over their colleagues with same pay which I vehemently opposed.Another proposal to put up boards annoncing price ranges was shot down by me becoz it clearly offends the senitivities of low range customers. taking customer feedback and checking thier yielding ratio was also put forward by me and won group's approval.On the whole I was satisfied with this GD compared to calcutta one, but one regret unconciously I shot down every proposal of one of the member who was nnot that assertive but accepted all of them when put forward y another member.I really feel sorry for this.Because it means I bossed over one who was weak and surrendered to assertive people.

well none of us could write summary completely because they snatched the papers.

PI::

two earlier persons had stress interview so I was pretty preapred for that but mine was very cordial.When I entered they asked me to shut the door when I proceeded to do so,one of them said don't shut it completely and laughter ,I joined meekly.
I take the seat
P1: anshul so give us your documents to us so that you stop worrying about them during interview.( I checked which one was front side and handed it to him.he playfully distributed all the components to other members.One got hold of my form,other one transcript and third one certificates.)
P1: so did you talk to other candidates about what we were asking?
Me: yes to tthe first one in this panel.
P1: what did he say?
Me:(I was about to say stress but desisted ) blah blah some derivation of comp science
P2: you did not bother about it as u r not from comp science
Me(gleefully):yes
P2: you did not ask to anybody else
Me: sir I amthe 3rd one so 2nd person has just left.
P2: no no other panels.
Me: (rather sheepishly) Sir I thought I should bother about my panel only.
P1: gud.


P3( old guy he was froom lectrical engg I guess):
So why do you want to do MBA after M tech and not working in the industry?
Me: blah blah high level entry better perspective
P3: you don't sound convince are u convinced urself
Me: ( well I am not actually) yes I am this is what I think it may not sound convincing but it si truth.( i was about to say I don't want to give bokish answer but then once again desisted)
P2: (khadoos) so u r an instrumentation engineer.
Me: no sir elctrical and instrumentation ( i was not confident of instru fundas but was confident about elctrical,well my worst fears came true)
P2: so let us design an ECG sensor to measure a pulse of x duration y magnitude at z distance from chest.
we had long discussion along magnetic sensors.I could not satisfy him with my concept but gave him enough indication that i know the prerequisites and understand all possible scenorias.
so he decidedto give me a second chance
P2: let us design anothe sensor you ewant to know whether interview of your friend has ended here or not from outside without any accoustic device.
Me : RFID (tried to give him a bait)
P2 : ( refused t otake) no the moment he finishes.
Me: okay put some transducer on his chair as soo n as he gets up yuo get a wireless signal.( my mistake I could use pressure sensor but let's see)
P2 : what frequency
Me: any it should not interfere with things operating in the room
P2: you decide that
Me: ojkay radio waves
P2 : what frequency
Me : that needs to be work out
P2: ork out
Me; okay they have wavelength of 5-12 metres so ytou know c and can get the frequency
P2: thats a wide range ,tell me exact
Me: ( speechless) i don't know
P2: have you heard about WAN blutooth
Me: I have but don't know exactly hoeww they work.( gadhe once I ccame out of room i remebered frequency hopping thing to avoid interfernece and increase bandwidth but damage was done.)
P2; you are from electrical na so it also involves communication you should know this things..
Me: ( wahi purana kissa) No sir In KGP it is only electrical .here both electrical and electronics are separate .At other places they are same.
P2: okay okay
P3: forwards a sheet of parer to me
Me: i have one alreeady sir
P3: no I have something for you
Now I look at the paer ,This guy is devil within 5 minuteds of knowing iam from elctrical he has made a complex LCR circuit and asks me to write KVL and KCL for this.At first I don't get him but then peacefully writesthem
P3: now how do you solve that
Me: using differential equations
P3: solve it
Me: ( slightly puzzled as ihad completely forgotton particular and complementary integral then strikes to me laplace bhai) Well it is already differential equation and we can have an easy approach by laplace transform if we know initial conditions.
P3: do it
Me: ( iski pyas kab bujhegi) : starts taking transgform one is integral
P3: now you are using a formula derive it
Me: (goes to do that)
P1: what is laplce transform
Me: it is a kind of mapping
P2: what kind of
Me: well it is a mapping from t domain to s domain
P3: how do u evaluate it
I wrote the formula but follishly put a condition of continuous function which was demolishe d by P3 and I had to eat humble pie.
P3: now derive integration vala formula
I proceeded and had idea that I ahve to use two variables but somehow could not make at the moment while coming to KGP back i figured complete derivation but it was too late.Actually i did not try to think while P# was giving me sufficent hints.Advice to all engineers they do give you ssufficient hints you should be able to pick them up
Me: sitr i don't remeber derivation at the moment
All ofthem in chorus: but you are elctrical engg you should know
Me: well it is a mathematical too land we use this tool and I know how to use tool.
P2: but you don't know how to make it
Me: not at present
P1: so you have written lot of quizzing thing in your form do you stil ldo all this tihngs
Me: I try to do as time permits and opportunities exist
P1: so you should know everything about everytihng being a quizzer
Me: ( kya main robot hoon) Well I try to know but afterall I am a human
P2; Do you follow cricket
Me: ( truthfully, I have not seen a single match after India's defeat by Zimbabawe in 1999 world cup)) I don't
P1;( thinks i am lying) : tell me difference between doosra and googly
Me:( what the hell is this why don't world believe in truth speaking people): well i don't know exactly but murlidharan bowls doosra and all others google I guess.
P2: what murlidharan is doosra???(laughs)
Me: ( you rasckal you just want to laught at people) but pe pitches in clarifies what i said.
P1: tell me anytihng else you follow
Me: Sir sports or any thing( give me a chance to prove myself )
P1: anything
ME: well Indian culture, history, economics ,political science( no it wil open a pandora's box) ,politics sir.
P1: tell me difference between Indian and USA govrnments
ME: explained parliamentary and presidential form.How you can win lection in USA even without hving majority votes I India it is not like that.P3 pitches in and gives me sufficint hints that in india laso it is possible.I take his hints and end up saying firat past post system etc.Theni dwell upon how US president can appoint anybody minsiter while we get old scums to head important ministry.
P2;Who is S&T minister
ME: kapil sibbal
P2: what is his profession
Me: he is a criminal criminal lawyer
everybody laughs i am happy that they share my viewpoint
P2 : then according to you he should not be S&T minister
ME: (protesting) no sir I just said person should possess basic skill set and sibbal has that.moreover i believe that govt is truly run by bureaucrates not minister .Explained why ithink so .told about "yes Minister" .but they did not picjk up bait.( they r really intelligent i will hve to confess).
P1" sp bureaucrates are responsible to whom
ME: to their political masters IN THEORY and explained their security of tenure and whole concept of accounatability or lack of it.
P1: so you don't like this tihng.
ME: no I am perfectly comfortable with bureaucrates running govt.
P!:(sarcasticxally) so I n USA corporate controls them
Me: I don't know about USA sir.( well obvioulsy they don't moreover thr it is specialist while we have a generalist system .I am real fool to not tell all these things there.)
P1: so you are from MP tell me sometihng about it
I wondere what to tell what not then explained lack of development and its possible reasons.they were visibly impressed.I told about laid back nature of our people.He asked the reason.I put forward my own theory of original populace being tribal and marwaris, gujaratis and marathi people being outsider and not emotinoal attachment, resources concentrted in one reginon ,no powerful political leadre at centre after 1947.
P1: before independence
Me : well even before independence no one .Talked about british policyy towards central provinces
P1: after independ
ME: well PT dwarkaprasad mishra father of Brajes mishra( they are both real chankyas but it seems these people have not heard about them)
At this point P2 goes to P1 and whispers sometihng to P1 about my resume. ican guess wht it is as I had written me bien hindi literature buff but no question came as sadly today;s elite doesnot read Hindi.Then i ahd written my weakness as sleeping too much and speaking fast or in accomlishments i being a RSS swayamsevak or involvement with youth organisation at campus or the incident which affected you beingrelated to hindu-muslim question. ireall y exopected a discussion along these lines but it seems they had sensed that here they won't be able to get over me.
P1so you have NNC B cretificate not C why?
ME: explained
P2: about placement at KGP and lehman package ( first guy had job with lehman)
I expalined
P1: so you seem to be more conversed with politics why did you choose engineering do u tihnk it was a mistake.
ME: ( well it was) : no sir I nejoy engineering It is just that being a responsible citizen i try to keep my eyes open to surroundings..
it is almost end
P1: you don't have all the certificates you have mentioned
ME: no sir they r thre starts counting by name
P1: well did german embassay had quiz in hindi
ME : they had in both hindi and english I being in Hindi medium went for hindi one.
P3: (reads my continuously dropping CG and asks reason .I tell him project etc thing but he doesn't agree then I say extracurricullar activities.HE says at IIM A we have so many of the then how will you mangae.I said I will learnto manage tihngs.He siad but u have ont in five yrs. I said i.e. why I am joining mangement course.They all laughed and asked me to take a toffee).


Sothis was it. I would like to have comments ( imprtial) as to whether I stand a chance.One thing MY CG is 8.1 and last time lowest CG of KGP guy admitted was 8.5.But i did not take any coaching for CAT and I mentioned this tihng in form.

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