Yesterday I watched movie 'k pax' a nice movie which forces one to re think various assumptions and notions we have about life and family.
lead actor who is a lunatic but thinks he has come from a planet tells a lady in movie that they do not have family at their planet as there is no need of it. I assume that once we advance in material development same may be case on earth e.g. family is a unit is more weaker in developed nations than developing nations.
but then what is difference between someone in your family and someone outside who performs same function for you I mean between parent and someone outside family who takes care of you, between your spouse and someone with you have just a physical relationship.
at this point the lady says 'you worry'. one worries about family. why ? don't ask me
may be it is same thing which our sages called 'moh'
one old lady in our relations was a perfect example of this , first she wanted to get all her sons and daughters married in good families, then she wanted sons for all of them, then wanted good health and job for all grandchildren and then she wanted all them married.
okie this is getting a bit muddled but bottom line despite material and intellectual advances our civilization still needs family.
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Friday, March 20, 2009
Sunday, March 1, 2009
Jai Ho
UPDATE: HOORAY HOORAY HOORAY! JAI HO GULZAR AND RAHMAN!
(Music that makes you scratch your head and think of Baazi Lagaa from Guru, 00:28 seconds to be precise)
Jai Ho! ^n
Aaja aaja jind shamiyaane ke taley
Aaja zari waale neele aasmaane ke taley
Jai Ho! ^ n
Ratti ratti sachchi maine jaan gawayi hai
Nach Nach koylon pe raat bitaayi hai
Ankhiyon ki neend maine phoonkon se udaa di
Gin gin taarey maine ungli jalayi hai
Eh Aaja aaja jind shamiyaane ke taley
Aaja zari waale neele aasmaane ke taley
Baila! Baila!
(Dance! Dance!)
Ahora conmigo, tu baila para hoy
(Now with me, you dance for today)
Por nuestro dia de movidas,
(For our day of moves,)
los problemas los que sean
(whatever problems may be)
Salud!
(Cheers!)
Baila! Baila!
(Dance! Dance!)
Jai Ho! ^n
Chakh le, haan chakh le, yeh raat shehed hai
Chakh le, haan rakh le,
Dil hai, dil aakhri hadd hai
Kaala kaala kaajal tera
Koi kaala jaadu hai na?
Aaja aaja jind shamiyaane ke taley
Aaja zari waale neele aasmaane ke taley
Jai Ho! ^ n
Kab se haan kab se jo lab pe ruki hai
Keh de, keh de, haan keh de
Ab aankh jhuki hai
Aisi aisi roshan aankhein
Roshan dono heerey (?) hain kya?
Aaja aaja jind shamiyaane ke taley
Aaja zari waale neele aasmaane ke taley
Jai Ho! ^ n
So this is my good deed of the day. The Rahman/Gulzar/Sukhwinder combination delivers again. Was frankly disappointed with Yuvvraaj lyrics; Tu hi to meri dost hai sounds like Gulzar sahib on an exceptionally bad day. Have bugged all the music shops in Bangalore asking them when the SM soundtrack is coming. Apparently it's being imported via a Mr Godot.
Update: Thanks JpnDude for the Spanish section! Below is a loose English translation that murders the original Hindi. Apologies to Gulzar Sahib. Hope to post a link here when I find a good translation online.
Jai Ho =Something between “Hail” and “Hallelujah”
Come, come my Life, under the canopy
Come under the blue brocade sky!
Iota by iota, I have lost my life, in faith
I’ve passed this night dancing on coals
I blew away the sleep that was in my eyes
I counted the stars till my finger burned
Come, come my Life, under the canopy
Come under the blue brocade sky!
Taste it, taste it, this night is honey
Taste it, and keep it,
It’s a heart; the heart is the final limit
You dark black kohl
It’s some black magic, isn’t it?
Come, come my Life, under the canopy
Come under the blue brocade sky!
For how long, how very long
It’s been on your lips
Say it, now say it
The eye is downcast
Such lit up eyes
Are they two lit-up dimaonds(?) ?
Come, come my Life, under the canopy
Come under the blue brocade sky!
(Music that makes you scratch your head and think of Baazi Lagaa from Guru, 00:28 seconds to be precise)
Jai Ho! ^n
Aaja aaja jind shamiyaane ke taley
Aaja zari waale neele aasmaane ke taley
Jai Ho! ^ n
Ratti ratti sachchi maine jaan gawayi hai
Nach Nach koylon pe raat bitaayi hai
Ankhiyon ki neend maine phoonkon se udaa di
Gin gin taarey maine ungli jalayi hai
Eh Aaja aaja jind shamiyaane ke taley
Aaja zari waale neele aasmaane ke taley
Baila! Baila!
(Dance! Dance!)
Ahora conmigo, tu baila para hoy
(Now with me, you dance for today)
Por nuestro dia de movidas,
(For our day of moves,)
los problemas los que sean
(whatever problems may be)
Salud!
(Cheers!)
Baila! Baila!
(Dance! Dance!)
Jai Ho! ^n
Chakh le, haan chakh le, yeh raat shehed hai
Chakh le, haan rakh le,
Dil hai, dil aakhri hadd hai
Kaala kaala kaajal tera
Koi kaala jaadu hai na?
Aaja aaja jind shamiyaane ke taley
Aaja zari waale neele aasmaane ke taley
Jai Ho! ^ n
Kab se haan kab se jo lab pe ruki hai
Keh de, keh de, haan keh de
Ab aankh jhuki hai
Aisi aisi roshan aankhein
Roshan dono heerey (?) hain kya?
Aaja aaja jind shamiyaane ke taley
Aaja zari waale neele aasmaane ke taley
Jai Ho! ^ n
So this is my good deed of the day. The Rahman/Gulzar/Sukhwinder combination delivers again. Was frankly disappointed with Yuvvraaj lyrics; Tu hi to meri dost hai sounds like Gulzar sahib on an exceptionally bad day. Have bugged all the music shops in Bangalore asking them when the SM soundtrack is coming. Apparently it's being imported via a Mr Godot.
Update: Thanks JpnDude for the Spanish section! Below is a loose English translation that murders the original Hindi. Apologies to Gulzar Sahib. Hope to post a link here when I find a good translation online.
Jai Ho =Something between “Hail” and “Hallelujah”
Come, come my Life, under the canopy
Come under the blue brocade sky!
Iota by iota, I have lost my life, in faith
I’ve passed this night dancing on coals
I blew away the sleep that was in my eyes
I counted the stars till my finger burned
Come, come my Life, under the canopy
Come under the blue brocade sky!
Taste it, taste it, this night is honey
Taste it, and keep it,
It’s a heart; the heart is the final limit
You dark black kohl
It’s some black magic, isn’t it?
Come, come my Life, under the canopy
Come under the blue brocade sky!
For how long, how very long
It’s been on your lips
Say it, now say it
The eye is downcast
Such lit up eyes
Are they two lit-up dimaonds(?) ?
Come, come my Life, under the canopy
Come under the blue brocade sky!
Wednesday, August 6, 2008
Pakistani movies on terrorism
I have watched only two of them - silent water of Sabhia sumar
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0357283/
here is my comment on same
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0357283/usercomments-13
and the other one is more famous khuda ke liye
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1068956/usercomments-26
I would not consider "silent water" as Pakistani movie as most actors are Indian. director herself is pretty offbeat and is married to a Hindu Indian !!!
But one point about that movie is that it shows how did Taliban and ISI recruited their foot soldiers and how American effort to curb communism ended creating another and mroe dangerous monster named "Islamic terrorism"
actually Americans should never have supported dictators against communists. Communism as a philosophy is so deeply flawed that it would crumble under its own weight as it did in Russia, china and Vietnam and will do so in N Korea and Vietnam in future But Islamic monster is bigger and difficult to control as west is experiencing now.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0357283/
here is my comment on same
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0357283/usercomments-13
and the other one is more famous khuda ke liye
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1068956/usercomments-26
I would not consider "silent water" as Pakistani movie as most actors are Indian. director herself is pretty offbeat and is married to a Hindu Indian !!!
But one point about that movie is that it shows how did Taliban and ISI recruited their foot soldiers and how American effort to curb communism ended creating another and mroe dangerous monster named "Islamic terrorism"
actually Americans should never have supported dictators against communists. Communism as a philosophy is so deeply flawed that it would crumble under its own weight as it did in Russia, china and Vietnam and will do so in N Korea and Vietnam in future But Islamic monster is bigger and difficult to control as west is experiencing now.
Thursday, June 19, 2008
Hindi Movies on Terrorists
Recently there has been a spate of movies on Muslim terrorists in Bollywood and most of them try to be politically correct while at the same time trying to depict ground realities.
Movies which come instantly to my mind are black Friday, sarfarosh, Black or White, Fanna, Aamir, Khuda ke liye
In 90's when Films were yet to get industry status Indian movies were msotly financed by underworld money and one could see its effect in storyline of films. Glorifying urchins, road side thugs, smugglers etc. Not a single movie was made in this period which was unambiguous in its message
Black Friday : This was a good attempt to reconstruct the events as they were without much change which is pretty rare in India ( remember Border).
Instead of sermonizing movie simply shows what happened Muslims were angry after babri mosque demolition.Police acted partial during riots and underworld was Muslim dominated and this came handy. One very sinister undercurrent of this movie and which is apparent worldwide that as a community Muslims are more susceptible to be brainwashed by community in danger rhetoric as has been demonstrated by history innumerable times.
Sarafrosh was a fresh air and it was mostly a crime thriller with Indian touch. It had two main Muslim characters in Nasseruddin Shah a Pakistani artist who abuses Indian hospitality and Deputy of Amir khan who feels he is discriminated by system because he is Muslim.
Fanna was an outlandish communist propaganda justifying terrorism in Kashmir and actually shows "dhimmittva" attitude common in bollywood
Aamir was different but once again it does not expose the Hippocracy of terrorist mastermind and actually gives a credence to vicitm mindset in muslims without paing attention to fact that more hindus are living in more pitiable conditons than muslims lviing in mumbai ghettos
Balck & WHite was once again a movie with appeasing tone. By characters of Anil kapoor it tries to show that always Hindus have to be accommodative and go extra mile in palacating muslims.
Pretty similar to kingdom of heaven menatlity of hollywood.
I seriously wonder when will our movies start to show real things in real way !!
Movies which come instantly to my mind are black Friday, sarfarosh, Black or White, Fanna, Aamir, Khuda ke liye
In 90's when Films were yet to get industry status Indian movies were msotly financed by underworld money and one could see its effect in storyline of films. Glorifying urchins, road side thugs, smugglers etc. Not a single movie was made in this period which was unambiguous in its message
Black Friday : This was a good attempt to reconstruct the events as they were without much change which is pretty rare in India ( remember Border).
Instead of sermonizing movie simply shows what happened Muslims were angry after babri mosque demolition.Police acted partial during riots and underworld was Muslim dominated and this came handy. One very sinister undercurrent of this movie and which is apparent worldwide that as a community Muslims are more susceptible to be brainwashed by community in danger rhetoric as has been demonstrated by history innumerable times.
Sarafrosh was a fresh air and it was mostly a crime thriller with Indian touch. It had two main Muslim characters in Nasseruddin Shah a Pakistani artist who abuses Indian hospitality and Deputy of Amir khan who feels he is discriminated by system because he is Muslim.
Fanna was an outlandish communist propaganda justifying terrorism in Kashmir and actually shows "dhimmittva" attitude common in bollywood
Aamir was different but once again it does not expose the Hippocracy of terrorist mastermind and actually gives a credence to vicitm mindset in muslims without paing attention to fact that more hindus are living in more pitiable conditons than muslims lviing in mumbai ghettos
Balck & WHite was once again a movie with appeasing tone. By characters of Anil kapoor it tries to show that always Hindus have to be accommodative and go extra mile in palacating muslims.
Pretty similar to kingdom of heaven menatlity of hollywood.
I seriously wonder when will our movies start to show real things in real way !!
Friday, June 13, 2008
IMDB correpondences
I started surfing IMDB in my 3rd year when a junior told me aobut the site. After that almost all english movise I have watched only after having a look at rating and storyline of the movie on IMDB.
Sometimes i also take part in its forums where I must say really good discussions take place. For me forums of particular interest are forum on those indian films which are viewd widley in west and help in forming to a lrge extent perception of india among westerners. In one such forum on movie "water" I was lambasting director deepa mehta for making money out of ills of indian society and the I got a very balanced repy from one gentleman which i think every nationalist or every person who thinks that whole world is after his religion should read :)
Interesting that you should condemn someone for making a film about an oppressive tradition, particularly that you should condemn them for damaging the reputation of a people who continue the custom to some degree today, yet you fail to condemn the oppression itself. The argument that airing your culture's dirty laundry is unacceptable because outsiders will see it has been used by groups pushing hurtful policies throughout the world, it's not unique to India. If you're concerned about bigots, you ought to be informed that nothing positive shown to a bigot will change their mind, some bigots may point to this film and yammer about how Indians oppress widows, but anyone with a mind of their own will know them for what they are: bigots. This film did not have the budget of Seven Years in Tibet and could not afford to build massive sets, filming was pushed out of India, and viewings were refused in India. I suppose she should have included a lesbian sex scene to overcome these challenges?
Regardless your criticisms, much of the world was unaware of the abuses this film brought to light. As much as you might cringe from outsiders criticizing your culture, you seem to have no problem pointing fingers at others such as Islam. Perhaps we all need peer review.
Lastly, your age of philanthropy is a pipe dream mirrored by Luddites and religious zealots throughout the world, the song is always the same: before outsiders brought their influence here, we were a better people. There's no evidence to support this claim. In reality, the people of the past were like the people of today, neither more moral nor less. Like us, they strove to make ends meet. It's precisely that understanding that historical films give us, not their technical mastery of an era. When we see a film that portrays the suffering of others, part of us is supposed to realize that we are like them, both like the oppressed and the oppressor. We're not better, we're not worse, we're entirely capable of perpetuating the same system. When we try to silence discussion of the subject, or we make petty criticisms when our or our kins' efforts to thwart them have failed, we're taking the first step down a long path toward active participation in that behavior again.
Stop worrying about the reputation of your men, every people on earth have skeletons in their closets. If your men and women committed these acts, try to understand why. Don't whine at everyone else to stick their head in the sand because the messenger has imperfect grammar.
Sometimes i also take part in its forums where I must say really good discussions take place. For me forums of particular interest are forum on those indian films which are viewd widley in west and help in forming to a lrge extent perception of india among westerners. In one such forum on movie "water" I was lambasting director deepa mehta for making money out of ills of indian society and the I got a very balanced repy from one gentleman which i think every nationalist or every person who thinks that whole world is after his religion should read :)
Interesting that you should condemn someone for making a film about an oppressive tradition, particularly that you should condemn them for damaging the reputation of a people who continue the custom to some degree today, yet you fail to condemn the oppression itself. The argument that airing your culture's dirty laundry is unacceptable because outsiders will see it has been used by groups pushing hurtful policies throughout the world, it's not unique to India. If you're concerned about bigots, you ought to be informed that nothing positive shown to a bigot will change their mind, some bigots may point to this film and yammer about how Indians oppress widows, but anyone with a mind of their own will know them for what they are: bigots. This film did not have the budget of Seven Years in Tibet and could not afford to build massive sets, filming was pushed out of India, and viewings were refused in India. I suppose she should have included a lesbian sex scene to overcome these challenges?
Regardless your criticisms, much of the world was unaware of the abuses this film brought to light. As much as you might cringe from outsiders criticizing your culture, you seem to have no problem pointing fingers at others such as Islam. Perhaps we all need peer review.
Lastly, your age of philanthropy is a pipe dream mirrored by Luddites and religious zealots throughout the world, the song is always the same: before outsiders brought their influence here, we were a better people. There's no evidence to support this claim. In reality, the people of the past were like the people of today, neither more moral nor less. Like us, they strove to make ends meet. It's precisely that understanding that historical films give us, not their technical mastery of an era. When we see a film that portrays the suffering of others, part of us is supposed to realize that we are like them, both like the oppressed and the oppressor. We're not better, we're not worse, we're entirely capable of perpetuating the same system. When we try to silence discussion of the subject, or we make petty criticisms when our or our kins' efforts to thwart them have failed, we're taking the first step down a long path toward active participation in that behavior again.
Stop worrying about the reputation of your men, every people on earth have skeletons in their closets. If your men and women committed these acts, try to understand why. Don't whine at everyone else to stick their head in the sand because the messenger has imperfect grammar.
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